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Garyhlucas

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BRX Analog output problems
« on: February 24, 2022, 11:31:31 AM »
Two weeks ag0 I had an issue with the analog outputs on a BRX36 with sinking outputs.  I thought the analog outputs would be sinking too because there was no polarity indication on the diagram for analog outputs.  I also didn't realize the analog outputs didn't need an external voltage source.  I got past that and it is working fine.  I think a little more information on the analog output diagram would make things clearer.  A simple plus sign on the output channels would have helped. a note that these are active outputs not passive would have helped too.  I've been doing this a really long time and it makes me feel really stupid to get caught on something like this.

So moving onto another project that was wired by a helper about 6 months ago I found out I did the exact same thing on the same PLC for both the internal analog outputs and the external analog outputs, putting a -24vdc to the commons and a plus 24vdc through a 32ma fuse to the load and the output.  The output isn't sinking it's sourcing so it blew the fuse.  Realizing the problem (experience lets you recognize a mistake when you make it again)  I unplugged the connectors.  The outputs are all set up for 4-20ma and this time I can't get anything other than 4.0 ma out of any channel even on the internal ones.  I was able to get correct variable voltage out of the internal analog though when set for 0-10 output.

Simple test.  Outputs are scaled 0-18000 to 4-20ma. Use a move instruction to put a value in RY0, RY1, RY2 and there is no change in the outputs.  So maybe I damaged the I/O but it seems surprising that all channels put out 4ma if there was damage.  So are the internal analog sharing circuitry that would disable both if damaged?

Been a bad week, I blew the direction inputs on 4 Yasakawa Servo drives when a year ago I missed a warning note in the 647 page manual that the pulse and direction are the only inputs that can't handle 24vdc and need dropping resistors!

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Re: BRX Analog output problems
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2022, 12:05:34 PM »
Make sure you are in RUN mode.  In PGM mode, Analog Outputs are not updated (stay at 4ma if configured for current), Discrete Outputs remain OFF.

EDIT: Inputs ARE updated in PGM mode.

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Re: BRX Analog output problems
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2022, 01:14:36 PM »
So I have to be doing something wrong.  Replaced the PLC with one from my development system. Loaded the same program.  PLC is in run, I can see the value 19660 (half scale) in WY0 all wiring disconnected from analog inputs I and still have only 4 ma output.  No alarms or warnings. Code to Move value to RY0 is in main and main is active.  I have checked that nowhere else in the program has RY0 or WY0 has been used.

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Re: BRX Analog output problems
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2022, 04:04:40 PM »
Totally baffled now.  3 PLCs on this machine.  Two have no analog I/O connections.   So I Moved a value of 9000 into WY0 on one of them and from the dashboard set up WY0 for 4-20ma and scaling of 0-18000 to 4-20ma.  Output is 4ma!   Changed the outputs to 0-10volts and I get exactly 5 volts.   So analog voltage works fine.  The analog voltage worked fine on the first PLC too, but not the current output.  This was also true of the other PLC from my development system.  Just turned everything off for the week, and suddenly had a thought.  Could I have picked the wrong BRX 36, one without analog? 

I need a rest.