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jakesz28

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What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« on: December 30, 2008, 07:17:35 PM »
Well I have been considering using a automation direct pc in my car for a while. And at the time the two things that made me consider this plc was the 12-24vdc power source and the price of the PC-PGM-BRICK SOFTWARE. I work at a business and have access to RS Logix but Allen Bradley's dc powered plc are for a 24 vdc power supply. Now that the software I was going to use is not availble and the only other option I see on there websight is the full version which is over twice the cost I'm thinking of going the other way. The problem is I already purchased the D06 and the analog card.

Do you know if it is still possible to get a copy of the PC-PGM-BRICK software somewhere? I currently have parts of the logic done but it is longer then the 100 word limit of their trial version.

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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 10:34:41 AM »
That package is no longer available.  You may be able to find someone selling a package on eBay.

We were selling too many different package support levels and the upgrade paths were becoming quite complex.  People purchased Rel 2 205 only package, then Rel 3 05 only package, then upgrading to Rel 4, and expecting 06 support, just to save a few bucks.

We dropped the price of the full package by $100, and we offered the DirectSOFT100 package for free (better than the Brick price), but limited for truly "brick" applications (around 12-16 I/O).  Also, the upgrade package upgrades to the FULL package (e.g. if you have a Rel 3 05 only package, and purchase the Rel 5 upgrade, you now have support for ALL DirectLogic PLCs!).

The "brick" PLCs are getting larger and larger (e.g. 06 with 4 expansion slots), supporting as much functionality of the "higher end" PLCs (e.g. PID, floating point math, etc.), making the differential between a "brick" PLC and "high" end PLCs even more blurred.

We determined that the only "sure way" to distinguish between "low end" and "higher end" applications is program size.  So if you have a "simple" 260 CPU or 450 PLC with a simple program (regardless of I/O count), the DirectSOFT100 package can work, but the BRICK package would not have worked (it only supported 05 and/or 06).

However, we did not want the guy who truly wanted a $99 PLC with a simple application to have to purchase a $395 package, making the DirectSOFT100 package FREE.

We also realize that there would be people "on the bubble" like yourself, but regardless of where that line is drawn, there will always be people on that bubble.  We apologize for the inconvenience.

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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 10:11:42 AM »
That package is no longer available.  You may be able to find someone selling a package on eBay.

We were selling too many different package support levels and the upgrade paths were becoming quite complex.  People purchased Rel 2 205 only package, then Rel 3 05 only package, then upgrading to Rel 4, and expecting 06 support, just to save a few bucks.

We dropped the price of the full package by $100, and we offered the DirectSOFT100 package for free (better than the Brick price), but limited for truly "brick" applications (around 12-16 I/O).  Also, the upgrade package upgrades to the FULL package (e.g. if you have a Rel 3 05 only package, and purchase the Rel 5 upgrade, you now have support for ALL DirectLogic PLCs!).

The "brick" PLCs are getting larger and larger (e.g. 06 with 4 expansion slots), supporting as much functionality of the "higher end" PLCs (e.g. PID, floating point math, etc.), making the differential between a "brick" PLC and "high" end PLCs even more blurred.

We determined that the only "sure way" to distinguish between "low end" and "higher end" applications is program size.  So if you have a "simple" 260 CPU or 450 PLC with a simple program (regardless of I/O count), the DirectSOFT100 package can work, but the BRICK package would not have worked (it only supported 05 and/or 06).

However, we did not want the guy who truly wanted a $99 PLC with a simple application to have to purchase a $395 package, making the DirectSOFT100 package FREE.

We also realize that there would be people "on the bubble" like yourself, but regardless of where that line is drawn, there will always be people on that bubble.  We apologize for the inconvenience.


If I am able to find a copy of the brick software does it support sending asci code and floating point math? I plan on using this as a data logger that will be sending every thing to a pc.

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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2009, 12:12:00 PM »
The brick package has full support for the controllers that it programs. The only difference between it and the full software is that it programs a limited number of controllers. So if the DL06 does what you want to do, the brick package will support it.
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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2009, 01:05:39 PM »
Thanks for the help. I'll just give it a little time and see if I can find the brick software package somewhere.

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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 03:39:20 PM »
Perhaps the OP should consider the CLICK PLC, free software but no analog and I think it requires a 24 VDC power supply.
To many negatives I guess. Good Luck with the DL06.
Is it possible to have a third party write/program your PLC?

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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2009, 11:12:45 AM »
Well, plus he's already got the 06 hardware.
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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2009, 11:16:20 AM »
To the OP, did you ever get your software?
An output is a PLC's way of getting its inputs to change.

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Re: What happened to PC-PGM-BRICK ?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2009, 03:47:31 PM »
To the OP, did you ever get your software?


Yes and no. I got a full version of version4 but It doesn't have some of the instructions that the newer software has.