FIND feature

[PLCGuy]

Is there an option the way Find (Cntrl_F) works. I do not need the box to pop up on the left every time. I just want to do the Cntrl-F and then hit Shift-Cntrl-F and cycle through the findings. I have to keep closing the box. I did not see an option how to control the box popping up.

[franji1]

Do Ctrl+Shift+F to "Find Again"

The list of all the keyboard shortcuts are in DMD0361 Keyboard Shortcuts

[PLCGuy]

That is what I do, but how do I keep the large box from popping up? It pops up on the left, it has all kinds of setups, "Look For", Element Search Options, Where in Search, etc). I have to keep closing it. Once I do close it, it stays close as I press Ctrl+Shift+F to "Find Again". It is the initial Ctrl +F that opens the box.

[franji1]

Ctrl+F launches the Find dialog box so you can specify what you want to find.

[Mike Nash]

I'm pretty sure PLCGUY is asking how to STOP the find dialog box from popping up every time Ctrl+F is pressed. In other words, the ability to select DS5 type behavior if desired.

It's very nice when I need it. It is very frustrating when it causes a bunch of extra attention from me to keep having to close it so I can see whatever it has covered up.

I am refreshing my request for a right click Find All when hovering over an address or nickname too!

[franji1]

DirectSOFT works the same as Designer (actually, the other way around).  Ctrl+F shows the Find dialog in DirectSOFT and in Designer.  It shows up for Ladder View, Documentation Editor, and Cross Reference view.

Shift+Ctrl+F does a Find Next, which does NOT bring up the dialog.  That's also the same in DirectSOFT and Designer.

You have more options in Designer's Ladder View due to the nature of the beast, so it is larger than DirectSOFT's.  We are looking to add a "less/more" button so that the dialog can optionally be made smaller.  That will help address the screen real estate issue.

[franji1]

Another possibility is to use the Cross Reference navigation hot keys/toolbar buttons, instead of Find.

Goto Next Cross Reference (Ctrl+Plus)
Goto Previous Cross Reference (Ctrl+Minus)
Goto Cross Reference as Output (F12)

These will go to the next/previous/output of whatever element is currently under the ladder block/parameter cursor.  No pop-up.  No configurations.  The only caveat is that the rungs must all be Accepted-F8 (Find works on new/edited rungs that have NOT been accepted, but Cross Reference does not).

See the attached screen shot - they're on the Offline Toolbar.

Also, floating your mouse cursor over any element in the Ladder View will bring up a tooltip with the cross reference list for that element - it bolds the current program address, but ALL of the addresses in that tooltip are hot links to that program address.

[PLCGuy]

woooo. I tried that and love it a lot.

Quick and easy. Just have to remember about the accepted thing.

[franji1]

woooo. I tried that and love it a lot.

The F12 is very powerful.  It actually cycles ALL the output instructions (e.g. multiple SET Y0, RST Y0).  Also numeric registers (V0, R0, etc.), not just Y's and C's.

[Mike Nash]

DirectSOFT works the same as Designer (actually, the other way around).  Ctrl+F shows the Find dialog in DirectSOFT and in Designer.  It shows up for Ladder View, Documentation Editor, and Cross Reference view.

Shift+Ctrl+F does a Find Next, which does NOT bring up the dialog.  That's also the same in DirectSOFT and Designer.

You have more options in Designer's Ladder View due to the nature of the beast, so it is larger than DirectSOFT's.  We are looking to add a "less/more" button so that the dialog can optionally be made smaller.  That will help address the screen real estate issue.

Rats, just lost my post. I tried to open DmD while DS5 and Firefox were running and got the hung desktop - processes for Dmd running but no application. Had to go to Windows Task Manager via 3 button as mouse click on desktop anything just dongs. Anyway, meant to switch app and closed FF accidentally instead. I have to stop explorer.exe and then start it again to clear this (not iexplorer).

So, DS5 Find dialog self closes after address is entered and Enter key pressed. That's the optional behavior I would like to be able to toggle as needed. I like the DmD dialog, when I need it. I have also started using the hover cross reference, but without rung numbers rather than program address, I get lost on occasion - usually when the search item is in a box instruction along with a lot of other things.

I also tend to forget some of the features in between projects. 

[franji1]

So, DS5 Find dialog self closes after Enter key pressed

THAT makes sense (did not understand).  Ctrl+F will STILL open the dialog, it' that you want it to CLOSE after you hit any of the Find/Find All/Whatever.  THAT can be done.   

[Mike Nash]

Oh goody!

[PLCGuy]

Mike thank you for explaining. You got it exactly.