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Mike Nash

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Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« on: January 18, 2016, 09:09:26 AM »
Sure is quiet!  :(
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 09:20:39 AM »
Yeah...I was thinking the same thing.
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 09:35:14 AM »
This is John Connor... at Crystal Peak.

« Last Edit: January 18, 2016, 09:59:43 AM by franji1 »
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 09:41:38 AM »
I agree. Somebody should break something so somebody else could try to fix it... ;D
I have been in C#.NET land lately...
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 10:14:32 AM »
Don't distract them, Mike!  I want my Baby Do-More!  I would say not to disturb them but I think that ship may have sailed!    :D

Probably just Do-More working too well and we're all to busy making money to chat.
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 03:27:09 PM »
Quote from: Controls Guy on January 18, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
Don't distract them, Mike!  I want my Baby Do-More!  I would say not to disturb them but I think that ship may have sailed!    :D

Well, since you asked...

Plastic vendor is bringing by first mold shots tomorrow.

UL file is open, and we are building the requested test units now.

We are a few weeks from having the last boards to pre-production layouts. May still be tweaks, but for all intents complete.

Spent the last few weeks working on file system stuff for the SDCard and Ram Disk. Have added FILEOPEN, FILESEEK, FILETRUNC, FILEDEL, and FILECOPY. Have updated STREAMIN, STREAMOUT, and CLOSE to support the file systems.

Since we now have a file system, just today added the ability to send an attachment in an EMAIL. Also added the ability to delete the source file after sending.

Next we are going to add a file logging instruction, RECIPEREAD, and RECIPEWRITE. The recipe instructions will work similarly to PUBLISH and SUBSCRIBE, but to records in a file.

Fun stuff!
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 04:20:13 PM »
Sweet!  Thanks for the update.  Can hardly wait!   :)
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2016, 03:15:05 PM »
The file instructions/data logging sound like something that would be very useful on a project my boss and I have been kicking around. I'm guessing that the files would be basic text files? From a regulatory standpoint, having the ability to make them somehow read only would be really nice.  From a data storage standpoint, having a file that can be "corrected" is a big no-no in a lot of industries. When I'm looking for a data logging system, the existence of read only data files is one of the first things I look for. Usually that means some proprietary software provided by the data logger manufacturer, and that would just lay another responsibility on your already full plate. Anyway just a thought. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 05:32:04 PM »
Quote from: Dean on January 19, 2016, 03:15:05 PM
The file instructions/data logging sound like something that would be very useful on a project my boss and I have been kicking around. I'm guessing that the files would be basic text files? From a regulatory standpoint, having the ability to make them somehow read only would be really nice.  From a data storage standpoint, having a file that can be "corrected" is a big no-no in a lot of industries. When I'm looking for a data logging system, the existence of read only data files is one of the first things I look for. Usually that means some proprietary software provided by the data logger manufacturer, and that would just lay another responsibility on your already full plate. Anyway just a thought. 

I'm open to doing what we can, but I'm not completely sure I know what that is. Obviously if the PLC is capable of writing the file, it is capable of re-writing it. It would be possible, perhaps, to create something like a write-once file, but using it is voluntary by the coder so that hasn't really helped. If it is simply an external access issue, we could probably add a file or user permission that would make a file or the file system itself externally read-only. Maybe you could elaborate a bit. It might be easy for us if we better understood the need.

Current plan is to create a file system management utility for DmD. We want you to be able to read, write, delete, etc all of the PLC's file systems. We are also considering adding HTTP and/or FTP access to the same.

When we crafted Do-more, we worked to build the control engine we would want to use, but to be honest, we deprioritized some of the nice-to-have features like file systems, data logging, and web access. Now that we have the core controller where we want it, we are finally getting to where we can focus on cool features like this. We're loving it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2016, 07:18:56 PM »
Let's take a data logger system we use here at my work as an example. Made by T and D Corp, the RTR-500 series. These are wireless modules that in our case measure temperatures. They broadcast to a base station connected to a PC. The PC has software that generates a report for each associated logger, daily or however often you require. The report contains all the data points collected during the defined period. The report is proprietary, it can only be opened with the above mentioned software, and the data can't be changed. This type of format makes it acceptable to an auditor, as it is not susceptible to data falsification. I think I've done a bad job of explaining, but does that make sense?
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2016, 07:54:18 PM »
Typically these sorts of devices write a binary coded file that has some sort of hashing built in to mildly scramble the data so that it is hard to decode and manipulate with a hex editor.  The PC app can decode the data and print or save off to Excel or some other print/manipulate utility to make reports, but the original data must be kept able to be kept intact to prove that no manipulation has taken place.

We used a lot of Yaskawa loggers at my past job to provide EPA data on our flare performance.  If you need any more info, hit me up.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2016, 09:18:45 PM »
Actually I think it would be very easy to do something like this with the primitive file system instructions we are adding. Creating a rudimentary encryption is quite easy in Do-more and could very easily be decoded with a simple PC app at the other end.
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 01:31:02 AM »
Any more news of the new Do-More line you are willing to share?
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 11:44:39 AM »
I'd love to, but it's best to avoid too much discussion about unannounced products, at least as related to availability. If you have specific questions I might be able to answer.
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Re: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2016, 07:24:37 PM »
New features?  Form factor?  Terminal type?

As for date will it be this year?  Have a project coming up that id like to try a do more type cpu in. 
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