Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...

[Controls Guy]

Fixed.  Changed it to read  "Do not ask again during this session - okay to download if no ERRORs"

Good deal.  That will be much less confusing to your more literal customers like me.

The Output Window is not modal, it's just a docked view.  The download/runtime edit would will have already occurred if we did not have that prompt/message box.  Better safe than sorry.

It might not be modal but it sure is persistent.  I even tried shrinking it down to 1/4" or so since as you note, it's a docked window, but I believe it kept resizing itself and stealing my screen space with every download, so I have to close it each and every time.  I think you may want to have a talk with it.  I don't think it's taking my check-box very seriously.

[plcnut]

The output window can be a pain.
What I have learned to do, is to always leave the window docked in auto hide. It hardly ever bothers me anymore.
If you close it (like I used to do) then it takes over every time it thinks there's a problem.

[Controls Guy]

Oh yeah, autohide.  Cool idea, didn't think of that -- thanks plcnut!

[BobO]

I've had the privilege to see some of plcnut's code, and trust me when I say that he pushes hard enough that warnings and info in the output window would be fundamental to his programming experience.

[Controls Guy]

I can only aspire to one day live as close to the bleeding edge as 'Nut!

[BobO]

I can only aspire to one day live as close to the bleeding edge as 'Nut!

Oh goody...even more nightmares for the development team...

[Controls Guy]

It's the "Cause of ma laff"!   [/John Edwards voice]

[Mike Nash]

When connected to the processor via the USB port, powering down the PLC seems to be locking up DmD 1.3.1. I have had this happen every time. I am thinking Ethernet always recovers when power is reapplied. This is kind of a bummer and I know I should "disconnect" first, but how often is that going to happen? 

I probably should have tried to see exactly what is happening, but it's always an "under the gun" time-frame when I run into this. I figured at first it may have just been my laptop, but I have seen it on a desktop and a customer had the same issue.

Any solution besides "disconnecting" first?

[BobO]

I have not seen that...cause we certainly wouldn't have shipped it if we had. We routinely power up/down, yank cables, hot swap crap we shouldn't, etc, with no issues. Gut tells me it is a Windows driver issue. Are you using a docking station? A 100 year-old PC? Anything else that might be relevant?

[Mike Nash]

Gut tells me it is a Windows driver issue. Are you using a docking station? A 100 year-old PC? Anything else that might be relevant?

No docking station. The PC is certainly not triple digit old, but maybe two. But hey! It runs Rockwell's Allen-Bradley RSLogix so it can't be all that bad.

I run mostly XP. I won't be able to test any further for a few days, but I will try it on a few different (newer and Win7 even) laptops and desktops and see what is reproducible and get back with you. If it should work without this issue I would sure like to help get it cleared up.

[davidbgtx]

Just getting started, there's a learning curve (been working with Think N Do too long)but that's part of the fun. Am looking to upgrade all my Think N Do CPU's to Do-More (looks like it will be a big step up in scan time with the testing I've done so far). So far, I like it, I like it a lot. Would like to see one for the 450, yeah I know it's not very popular, but expensive to replace the whole rack.

[DLTimmons]

Just getting started, there's a learning curve (been working with Think N Do too long)but that's part of the fun. Am looking to upgrade all my Think N Do CPU's to Do-More (looks like it will be a big step up in scan time with the testing I've done so far). So far, I like it, I like it a lot. Would like to see one for the 450, yeah I know it's not very popular, but expensive to replace the whole rack.

I have replaced a couple winPLCs with Do-mores and have a few more to do. Stage program make it very easy to do. Make each chart a program and each loop point use a stage and it works great.

[davidbgtx]

Several of my ThinkNDo programs are around 200 charts, is there a limit to the number of programs Do-more can run?

[BobO]

Just image register (256K), program memory (64K), and heap item limit (1000). Depends on complexity, but 200 seems in play.

[Controls Guy]

Would like to see one for the 450, yeah I know it's not very popular, but expensive to replace the whole rack.

So swap your 405 CPU for an EBC and run the rack as remote to a DM1E with no I/O.  (Hosties, this is doable, yes?)