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Author Topic: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???  (Read 59166 times)

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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2015, 01:07:00 PM »
Honestly, how big does a program have to be before a PLC runs into a scan time issue?



I can do it in a handful of rungs...but I know the weaknesses. When used in a fairly conventional way, Do-more is very hard to break. There are some that hang around here (you know who you are) who probably nudge up against the performance edge more than others. With Do-more, however, there are so many ways to reduce processor load that working around it is pretty easy.
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2015, 01:07:28 PM »
Such big plans...so little time.

After the toilet thread on the ADC forum, as I read that one I heard it in a Slavic accent, and I have to say, your Russian is not that bad!
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2015, 01:08:59 PM »
I recommend NOT making a DNS call every five seconds!  D'oh!   ;D

(though that isn't a limitation of the PLC per se, but how fast you can get a response from your DNS server)
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2015, 01:16:36 PM »
After the toilet thread on the ADC forum, as I read that one I heard it in a Slavic accent, and I have to say, your Russian is not that bad!

A friend of mine is Latvian born, but raised in the US. I got to spend a week with him in Latvia doing ministry work. He has this big list of Russian-isms, which of course must be spoken in Slavic accent to get full effect. A couple of favs:

1. When needing the time, while tapping one's wrist: "Which watch?" or "How much clock?"
2. When explaining one's newness to the country: "You help please? I've only been in country short distance".
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2015, 01:30:34 PM »
"As long as they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work."

Applies as well in some US companies as it did in the USSR.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2015, 01:37:53 PM »
"As long as they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work."

Applies as well in some US companies as it did in the USSR.

Following the fall of the USSR, it was stunning how much Latvia changed, both for Latvians and for the Russians living in Latvia (about 1/3 of the population). Very capable and intelligent people completely crushed by a system. It took about a decade before capitalism started to free their minds, but it happened eventually, and Latvia really blossomed. Having witnessed both sides of that first hand (also spent time Soviet Bloc countries during the Cold War), it is utterly appalling to me how the US is drifting that way.

But alas...let's avoid depressing political discussions.

How about that CLICK Ethernet!?!?
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2015, 01:45:56 PM »
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How about that CLICK Ethernet!?!?

Well, the Click E-Port has the same number of wires as a Do-More, but in every other respect, I'd rather have a Do-More.

In re: politics, I heartily concur with all you said.  Note my tagline (though perhaps I should change "crooks" to "Fascists")

How about that local sports team?   ;D
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2015, 02:00:16 PM »
How about that local sports team?   ;D

We favor the color orange up in these parts, although one partner is a UK fan and the other went to VT. In the south, college football is probably more contentious than politics, although mostly in a more friendly way.
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2015, 02:49:55 PM »
As a Tennessee Yankee (not the baseball team but just a displaced Yinzer, and its my fantasy football tag), I tend to cater to the Pros and bleed Black and Gold.

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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2015, 04:06:59 PM »
Scarlet and Grey...

On PLC's:  Im excited in the industrial control world.  Technology is rapidly advancing and the power it gives us to make our jobs easier is astounding.  Our plant is slow to catch on to new things, about two or three times a month a new products comes out and I say "Wow, that would go good here and fix ...."

In the 10 years since I left the navy (Submarine Fleet) it seems overnight we've gone from basic controls to a place where anything is possible.

I wonder where we'll be in another decade?


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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2015, 04:42:58 PM »
I wonder where we'll be in another decade?

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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2015, 05:12:43 PM »
Scarlet and Grey...

I don't have much opinion about the B1G, but pretty sure y'all didn't send the best team to the CFP.

I wonder where we'll be in another decade?

We're really just bringing well established desktop technologies to the PLC, and pretty incrementally at that. Given the relatively slow acceptance of new tech on the factory floor, I don't think it will be significantly different than the best available today, just more prevalent throughout the industry. Even if somebody drops The Next Big Thing in automation, it will still take many years before it takes over. JMO...
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2015, 05:28:57 PM »
In the 10 years since I left the navy (Submarine Fleet) it seems overnight we've gone from basic controls to a place where anything is possible.

Yeah, but you get a lot more choices for industrial automation gear when it doesn't have to work underwater.
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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2015, 06:30:51 PM »
In the 10 years since I left the navy (Submarine Fleet) it seems overnight we've gone from basic controls to a place where anything is possible.

Yeah, but you get a lot more choices for industrial automation gear when it doesn't have to work underwater.

Or supplied by Uncle Sam.

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Re: New Ethernet CLICKs are out ... New Do-mores are ???
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2015, 02:34:45 PM »
Second the point about false savings. Staged programming feature alone saves hours of programming and troubleshooting.

Honestly, if Click can do an app with its limited capabilities, and you like using it, we're certainly not offended. I personally think that for some apps it ends up being a false savings due to increased programming effort, but for others it is the slam dunk correct answer. Use the right product for the app.

That said, we are definitely expanding down market while Click moves up. By the time we finish our down market expansion, there won't be much daylight between the products. And after that, we'll be expanding up market. In time...Do-more everywhere!