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jwbaker3

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2023, 04:06:47 PM »
Thanks!

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2023, 10:24:17 PM »
Is this still planned for this year?

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2023, 05:51:43 PM »
I know we keep asking but is there an update for the Implicit messaging for the BRX. I have hardware here for a project and I will have to use something else if not soon. My problem not yours, but just look for a little light in the tunnel. (and not a train...I hope) If it's going to be by the end of the year I can let the customer know, and I wont have to buy AB hardware out of my pocket.

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2023, 10:56:28 AM »
I have the customer looking at Compactlogix  I can keep their plant on BRX if I can tell them the Implicit messaging will be here soon. I know I am 1 fish in the pond but can we please get an update?

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« Last Edit: December 04, 2023, 11:02:51 AM by jwbaker3 »

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2023, 01:44:29 PM »
It is now delayed until after the new year, 1Q2024.  Sorry about that.

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2023, 08:29:48 AM »
Thanks.
Is that time frame - in stone, in ink, in pencil, we'll give it our best or maybe by Q1 2024? I ask because I have been telling my customer it was coming by the end of this year like you guy's said and now they are starting to wonder about the information I am giving them. I don't want to be pushy but I really need a for sure time frame, if possible.   

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2023, 02:04:39 PM »
Thanks.
Is that time frame - in stone, in ink, in pencil, we'll give it our best or maybe by Q1 2024? I ask because I have been telling my customer it was coming by the end of this year like you guy's said and now they are starting to wonder about the information I am giving them. I don't want to be pushy but I really need a for sure time frame, if possible.   

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JW

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2023, 11:52:27 AM »
Thanks! I will try to keep the BRX in the plant. They are expanding the production line and with this customer and another we will use +35 more BRX, power supplies, sensors etc. I have been able to get it to work on everything except some of the Fanuc robot comm's but I have a "working" work around and the Keyence MDX2500 laser which I could not get to work completely, tonnage adjustment and radar sensors.

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2024, 01:38:01 PM »
Is Q1-2024 still the plan for this feature addition?

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2024, 01:59:31 PM »
Is Q1-2024 still the plan for this feature addition?

The scanner is running. Working on EDS support now. We don't have a launch date yet, but I would expect it to be early Q2.
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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2024, 01:05:24 PM »
We had to go with AB 5069 compactlogix on the new project but we are using BRX as remote I/O thanks to the EDS generator you built into the BRX. We could not wait for the Implicit messaging. But there is always another project coming (hopefully) where the BRX with Implicit messaging will be the right fit.

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2024, 02:50:44 PM »
We had to go with AB 5069 compactlogix on the new project but we are using BRX as remote I/O thanks to the EDS generator you built into the BRX. We could not wait for the Implicit messaging. But there is always another project coming (hopefully) where the BRX with Implicit messaging will be the right fit.

JW

I'm sorry. It's coming along very nicely. Scanner is solid and EDS support is progressing better than I expected, but it is a big job.
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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2024, 01:41:38 PM »
Thanks BobO!

I am planning to use a Teknic ClearLink (CL) Step-and-Direction Controller on a PNP Robotics Project.  The CL is a an Implicit and Explicit EIP Messaging Adapter.  I used Explicit messaging with the CL and a BRX PLC on a previous project and it worked, but it was very challenging to learn and program.  And that was for a very slow and intermittent XY Table... Slow Move. Stop. Rest for long periods (hours). Repeat.  I don't think I have the programming skill or time to make Explicit Messaging work for this higher speed, continuously moving and constant position changing PNP Robot.

All that to say, that I am really looking forward to this new function in the BRX PLC's!  However, I have one question...

The Teknic CL already has an EDS File available for the Automation Direct Productivity Series of PLC.  Is there any way to know if this same EDS File will work for the BRX PLC when y'all release the new firmware for the BRX?

Thanks for any reply.  And let me know, if there is anything that I can do to help.

Happy Resurrection Day and God Bless!

SOWEGATS

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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2024, 02:16:30 PM »
Thanks BobO!

I am planning to use a Teknic ClearLink (CL) Step-and-Direction Controller on a PNP Robotics Project.  The CL is a an Implicit and Explicit EIP Messaging Adapter.  I used Explicit messaging with the CL and a BRX PLC on a previous project and it worked, but it was very challenging to learn and program.  And that was for a very slow and intermittent XY Table... Slow Move. Stop. Rest for long periods (hours). Repeat.  I don't think I have the programming skill or time to make Explicit Messaging work for this higher speed, continuously moving and constant position changing PNP Robot.

All that to say, that I am really looking forward to this new function in the BRX PLC's!  However, I have one question...

The Teknic CL already has an EDS File available for the Automation Direct Productivity Series of PLC.  Is there any way to know if this same EDS File will work for the BRX PLC when y'all release the new firmware for the BRX?

Thanks for any reply.  And let me know, if there is anything that I can do to help.

Happy Resurrection Day and God Bless!

SOWEGATS

If you want to link the EDS or attach to a post, I'm happy to check it when I'm back in the office. Don't know any reason it wouldn't work.
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Re: Implicit I/O messaging
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2024, 03:51:45 PM »
Thanks BobO!!  BTW, I love your Pinky and The Brain Icon!!  :)

Please see attached EDS File.  I was able to open it with NotePad.  My understanding is that it can be opened with any text editor.

Here are a couple of links to the Teknic downloads page:
https://teknic.com/files/downloads/clearlink_ethernet-ip_object_reference.pdf
https://teknic.com/files/downloads/clearlink_examples.zip

If the EDS attachment doesn't work, the EDS File is in the zip file.  Thanks again! (Edit: I had to change the file type from .eds to .txt so that it would upload.)

Happy Resurrection Day and God Bless!

SOWEGATS
« Last Edit: March 30, 2024, 03:53:55 PM by SOWEGATS »