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H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« on: December 12, 2017, 08:44:02 AM »
Can't seem to get h2-Serio-4 modules to work in my slave bases (H2-ECOMM100 in slave base). Is this supported, or can I only use the serial module in the master rack?

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2017, 09:14:18 AM »
You have an H2-EBC100? or just an H2-ECOM100?
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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 09:16:43 AM »
Sorry I meant EBC100

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2017, 09:17:35 AM »
Serio isn't supported in remote racks.

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 09:20:38 AM »
Well, I'm in big trouble now. Thanks

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2017, 09:21:50 AM »
SERIOs are only supported in the local base.

If you need a remote serial port, you may want to look at a BX-DM1E-M BRX PLC that has no I/O, but write a small program that communicates "locally" with the remote serial slave device (or get a BRX with I/O if you actually need remote I/O also).  You can then use RX/WX over Ethernet from your 205 master PLC to interface to the "remote" BRX to read and/or write whatever data the BRX has from the remote serial slave device.  The BRX serial port can be point-to-point or multi-drop, in case you had more than 1 remote slave device in that physical area.

If you just need to poll/refresh, this can be done pretty easily with a small number of read and/or write communication boxes in the slave (probably combination of MRX/MWX Modbus Read/Write boxes) and 1 or 2 RX/WX Ethernet boxes in the master.

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2017, 09:27:32 AM »
If you want to stick with 1 hardware platform (205), replace your H2-EBC100 CPU with another Do-more H2-DM1E CPU and have the H2-DM1E be the "smart" remote I/O slave.

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2017, 09:42:54 AM »
That was what I did on one of my application. At the time there was only $50 difference in a Do-more and EBC.

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2017, 09:51:20 AM »
If you want to stick with 1 hardware platform (205), replace your H2-EBC100 CPU with another Do-more H2-DM1E CPU and have the H2-DM1E be the "smart" remote I/O slave.
So I can set a DM1E as a slave, or are we talking peerlink?

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2017, 09:54:45 AM »
So I can set a DM1E as a slave, or are we talking peerlink?
It cannot technically be an "Ethernet I/O Slave" like an EBC or GSEDrive, BUT it CAN be a generic "slave", meaning use PEERLINK or RX/WX or whatever over Ethernet.  If you don't have anything else on your network using PEERLINK, that may be the "easiest", but using RX/WX isn't that difficult.

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 10:00:35 AM »
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It cannot technically be an "Ethernet I/O Slave" like an EBC or GSEDrive, BUT it CAN be a generic "slave", meaning use PEERLINK or RX/WX or whatever over Ethernet.  If you don't have anything else on your network using PEERLINK, that may be the "easiest", but using RX/WX isn't that difficult.
Ok thanks for the advice, I may just swap cpu and EBC100 from rackl to rack and re-address. Will look into easiest method peerlink, RX/WX or swapping master slave.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2017, 11:10:33 AM by franji1 »

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 10:04:19 AM »
What would be fastest COMM/smallest hit on scan time over Ethernet, Peerlink, RX/WX, or master/slave (EBC100), per this instance?

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2017, 11:09:37 AM »
What would be fastest COMM/smallest hit on scan time over Ethernet, Peerlink, RX/WX, or master/slave (EBC100), per this instance?
What I/O update rate do you need?  PEERLINK runs at 10Hz, so it only publishes once every 100ms.  If that is acceptable, then that is probably the minimal hit to the scan time across all PLC scans.

If you need it to be faster, then you will need to write your own PROGRAM code block to do a bunch of RX/WX continuously.  How fast do you need it to run?

Realize that the more comm you have, the slower the PLC scan time.  It's a double-edged sword.

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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2017, 12:20:47 PM »
Ok thanks for the advice, I may just swap cpu and EBC100 from rackl to rack and re-address. Will look into easiest method peerlink, RX/WX or swapping master slave.

Don't really need to readdress unless you want to.  You can override the default automagic module base addresses, just like in DL-Classic.
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Re: H2-Serio-4 in slave Base?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2017, 05:42:39 AM »
Ok thanks for the advice, I may just swap cpu and EBC100 from rackl to rack and re-address. Will look into easiest method peerlink, RX/WX or swapping master slave.

Don't really need to readdress unless you want to.  You can override the default automagic module base addresses, just like in DL-Classic.

I always use manual config of base addresses (I know, I'm a control freak), so I just "swapped" the address ranges from the slave to the master and vice versa and moved the serio modules to new master rack, wasn't so bad. What was really cool, was it allowed me to Copy/move the module/device configurations (CTRIO, Serio,etc)when they were moved. Host guys, way to go, can't say enough good things about the group. Now that I've buttered you up, any chance of getting the serio modules to work in slave bases in the future (had to run some long cabling because I couldn't put them in the slave bases). AND while I'm dreaming, how about being able to send 65535 to analog output modules without having to use :U, gets me every time. Really appreciate all the help/advice, you can always count on this forum.