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Please rate your experience with Do-more

Outstanding - the only PLC I would ever use...would you please put it on new platforms
40 (48.2%)
Very nice - I plan to add this to the systems I currently use
38 (45.8%)
OK - I might use it again
3 (3.6%)
Not impressed - I would only use it if none of the other controllers would do the job
2 (2.4%)
Um...no - won't ever use it again
0 (0%)

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #195 on: June 18, 2013, 03:38:36 PM »
I still have this problem, even with only one Data View enabled.

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #196 on: June 18, 2013, 03:40:42 PM »
I also have only one data view open, but 10 or 12 ladder windows.  Does having multiple ladder windows, even though only one displays, count in the bog factor?
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #197 on: June 18, 2013, 03:52:54 PM »
I also have only one data view open, but 10 or 12 ladder windows.  Does having multiple ladder windows, even though only one displays, count in the bog factor?

Status is being acquired on each open view, without regard to whether it is visible or not. Each view only acquires status on the portion of the view that would be visible were the view in the foreground. Generally, Do-more comms are plenty fast to keep up with all but the worst cases, although still finite.

My suspicion is that in some cases these are video driver issues, not comm issues.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #198 on: June 18, 2013, 11:12:59 PM »
In a related topic, I find I frequently refer to the status display of code blocks in the project browser.  Excellent addition!!   :)

Suggested enhancement:  Vary status color by execution frequency.  Like every scan vs. some scans vs. no recent scans.  Or as much level of graduation as you want to do.  Maybe some special type highlight for blocks that are yielding / time slicing.

I believe I saw for example, a block that was executing and exiting every cycle not highlighted.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #199 on: June 19, 2013, 02:07:24 AM »
My suspicion is that in some cases these are video driver issues, not comm issues.

Is the screen drawing code associated with Data Views the same as with DirectSoft?  I didn't have any issues with Data views on the same machine with DS.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #200 on: June 19, 2013, 02:18:48 AM »
My suspicion is that in some cases these are video driver issues, not comm issues.

Is the screen drawing code associated with Data Views the same as with DirectSoft?  I didn't have any issues with Data views on the same machine with DS.

Data view is virtually unchanged, as is the comm server. Biggest change is the ladder display, and the trend and project views.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #201 on: June 19, 2013, 10:59:04 AM »
Data view is virtually unchanged, as is the comm server. Biggest change is the ladder display, and the trend and project views.

OK, that's what I would have guessed based on the look.  So does the same machine with same video adapter and driver working OK with DS but then having this issue with DMD weigh against it being a video driver issue?

Also, I'll also try with fewer ladder windows open and see if it still occurs.

Thanks!
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« Reply #202 on: June 19, 2013, 11:30:41 AM »
OK, that's what I would have guessed based on the look.  So does the same machine with same video adapter and driver working OK with DS but then having this issue with DMD weigh against it being a video driver issue?

Nope. Suggests it. The big change to the ladder view was to move away from raster drawing and over to all bitmap based drawing. Unless the data view is the only thing going, in which case I have no clue. The comm server is virtually unchanged, except to add the new protocol. Other than the ladder, trend, and project view drawing codes being pretty graphics heavy, the only other thing that has changes is that Do-more comms are far faster than DL, and as a result, we pump a whole lot more updates to screen...but now we have circled back to something related to video.

Hey Mark, what control do we now have of update rates?

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #203 on: June 19, 2013, 11:33:33 AM »
Unless the data view is the only thing going, in which case I have no clue.

Haven't tried that yet.  Don't normally work that way, obviously, plus it's intermittent, so it might be a while before I could test that.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #204 on: June 19, 2013, 11:37:01 AM »
We have some inside information that Rel 1.1 Beta addresses this issue.  Data View is updating some rather large data sets w/22 1024 byte strings.

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #205 on: June 19, 2013, 12:54:54 PM »
We have some inside information that Rel 1.1 Beta addresses this issue.  Data View is updating some rather large data sets w/22 1024 byte strings.

Cool!

Another code block related feature request -- add to right-click menu ability to start or stop a program, possibly even enable a task.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #206 on: June 19, 2013, 01:21:01 PM »
We have some inside information that Rel 1.1 Beta addresses this issue.  Data View is updating some rather large data sets w/22 1024 byte strings.

Is there text wrap for the really long strings?
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #207 on: June 19, 2013, 02:22:05 PM »
Is there text wrap for the really long strings?
Just change the display format.  Look here for details
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #208 on: June 19, 2013, 02:55:57 PM »
Another code block related feature request -- add to right-click menu ability to start or stop a program, possibly even enable a task.
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This would be super helpful!
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #209 on: June 19, 2013, 03:17:50 PM »
Another code block related feature request -- add to right-click menu ability to start or stop a program, possibly even enable a task.
+1
This would be super helpful!

This is hard-ish. Stages control their state internally, but programs and tasks work very closely with their enabling instruction. It isn't impossible, but it isn't particularly straightforward either. Of the requests, running and stopping a program would be the easiest. Tasks would be considerably harder.
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