Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...

[Mike Nash]

Has anyone mentioned the tendency of DmD and DSx to change the case of project names when they are created? It's really annoying. DmD just changed my nice project name to all lower case. It seems like DSx always wanted to make it upper case.

 

[BobO]

Has anyone mentioned the tendency of DmD and DSx to change the case of project names when they are created? It's really annoying. DmD just changed my nice project name to all lower case. It seems like DSx always wanted to make it upper case.

 

Hateful Host Engineering people...


Can we fix that, Mark?

[franji1]

Has anyone mentioned the tendency of DmD and DSx to change the case of project names when they are created? It's really annoying. DmD just changed my nice project name to all lower case. It seems like DSx always wanted to make it upper case.

 

Hateful Host Engineering people...


Can we fix that, Mark?

I wrote up a FogBugz case for it.  Hopefully it will be easy.

[Mike Nash]

Has anyone mentioned the tendency of DmD and DSx to change the case of project names when they are created? It's really annoying. DmD just changed my nice project name to all lower case. It seems like DSx always wanted to make it upper case.

 

Hateful Host Engineering people...


Can we fix that, Mark?

And there's the problem with smileys.  There wasn't one for frustrated so I picked the closest "look alike" I could find.

BTW, the Save As has always worked fine, but you have to change the name for that to work. There is also some point in there that it seems to corrupt the file if I try to Save As before it has saved the first time. I tried it twice at least and couldn't open the file afterwards. It is OK after it has asked for the project description and all (sorry, I don't have it open to get the correct name.)

I was starting my third Do-more project BTW.

[franji1]

There is also some point in there that it seems to corrupt the file if I try to Save As before it has saved the first time.

If you can give us steps on how to reproduce it, that would be great!  I tried it with a simple STR X0/OUT Y0 project saved via "Save As" dialog to "SaveAs1", closed the project, then open SaveAs1.dmd, and it worked for me.  That doesn't mean there isn't an issue, it just means that there are other steps involved that maybe you can provide  .

[Mike Nash]

There is also some point in there that it seems to corrupt the file if I try to Save As before it has saved the first time.

If you can give us steps on how to reproduce it, that would be great!  I tried it with a simple STR X0/OUT Y0 project saved via "Save As" dialog to "SaveAs1", closed the project, then open SaveAs1.dmd, and it worked for me.  That doesn't mean there isn't an issue, it just means that there are other steps involved that maybe you can provide  .

I see why you don't see it. I almost never save a new project to the default folder. So on New File - Offline - pick a processor - click Browse - change to a different folder - type filename with mixed case - Save - All lower case now. If I let it create it in the default folder it doesn't do the case change. The path is all lower case also after the browse selection. This is all before clicking OK.

[Controls Guy]

Oh yeah, default folders for apps.   Lamest idea EVER.  Why would I want to store my docs in a hierarchy related to what project they're part of when I can organize them based on the fact that I created them in Word or whatever.  [eyeroll]

[franji1]

All lower case now.

OK - you're talking about the FILENAME becoming corrupted (i.e. becoming all lower case).  Yes!  I see that when I do SaveAs to a different folder.  I thought that you were talking about the project FILE becoming corrupted.  Sorry about that.  We will address it.

[franji1]

Oh yeah, default folders for apps.   Lamest idea EVER.  Why would I want to store my docs in a hierarchy related to what project they're part of when I can organize them based on the fact that I created them in Word or whatever.  

[Emoticon edit  ].

Yeah, that's still the default behavior.  However, you can easily override it using the File->Manage Projects->Folder Settings dialog (see attachment).  Just change the Projects Folder via the Set Projects Folder... button.

[Controls Guy]

Oh I do, believe me.  I set the default to the main projects directory.  I still have to navigate from the default, but at least that gets me 50% or more of the way there.  My comment had more to do with the laughable degree of app-centricity of the developers of Word or whatever app, thinking that there's even the remotest chance you'd choose to organize your files that way and making it the default.  It's not an automation software thing per se; everybody does it and it's just dumb IMO.

[Mike Nash]

All lower case now.

OK - you're talking about the FILENAME becoming corrupted (i.e. becoming all lower case).  Yes!  I see that when I do SaveAs to a different folder.  I thought that you were talking about the project FILE becoming corrupted.  Sorry about that.  We will address it.

Oh I can do that too! After you allow it to create the project with all lower case, try to Save As. It won't allow you to just fix the case and save it. So close the project. In Windows, I go and fix the case of the 3 files it has created. Now you cannot open the Fixed Filename.dmd project - "Error reading project file!"

[franji1]

After you allow it to create the project with all lower case, try to Save As. It won't allow you to just fix the case and save it.

Saw that - Windows file name can contain upper and lower, but the file system is case Insensitive, so you cannot have "abc.dmd" Save-As to "ABC.dmd", because it's the same file (you can only "save" it, not "save-as" to a "different" file that is the "same" file).

So close the project. In Windows, I go and fix the case of the 3 files it has created. Now you cannot open the Fixed Filename.dmd project - "Error reading project file!"

I changed the 3 all lower case files
"bsaveas.dmd", "bsaveas.wsp", "bsaveas.xml" to
"BSaveAs.dmd", "BSaveAs.wsp", "BSaveAs.xml" using Explorer
and it opened just fine in Designer.  I am using DmD 1.3.  Is that they way you see the error, or do I need to do something different?

[Mike Nash]

The thing I am maybe doing different is not creating any code at all before closing the project (after it won't let me Save As the same name but different case.) In other words, it is pretty much a null project. It is most likely a case no one will usually see, but I ran into simply because I wanted to fix the filename.

[Controls Guy]

It's not a bug.  That flag is maintained per session, by design.  If during this session, if you say "don't notify me again", we don't bother you again for that specific Designer session.

Sounds reasonable, but if that's the decision, you need to change the "always" word.  I associate "always" with the "forever" thingy. 

The question was how long do we maintain that state.  What if you create 100 new warnings?  Don't bother letting you know in the middle of a runtime edit?  Which warnings/messages from 5 months ago do you need to not care about and which new ones do you need to know?  If we made that checkbox lifetime last a lifetime, there might be some critical warnings that you would miss in the middle of that 2AM runtime edit.

Except how could that actually happen when the Output window opens anyway even with the box checked and needs closing with each and every download?

[franji1]

Sounds reasonable, but if that's the decision, you need to change the "always" word.  I associate "always" with the "forever" thingy. 

Fixed.  Changed it to read
"Do not ask again during this session - okay to download if no ERRORs"

Except how could that actually happen when the Output window opens anyway even with the box checked and needs closing with each and every download?

The Output Window is not modal, it's just a docked view.  The download/runtime edit would will have already occurred if we did not have that prompt/message box.  Better safe than sorry.