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Please rate your experience with Do-more

Outstanding - the only PLC I would ever use...would you please put it on new platforms
40 (48.2%)
Very nice - I plan to add this to the systems I currently use
38 (45.8%)
OK - I might use it again
3 (3.6%)
Not impressed - I would only use it if none of the other controllers would do the job
2 (2.4%)
Um...no - won't ever use it again
0 (0%)

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #180 on: June 13, 2013, 01:46:51 PM »
Do-more and Designer look enough like DL and DirectSoft on the surface to lull you into a false sense of adequacy. ;)

This is great in some ways and bad in others. It was designed to allow you to be immediately productive if coming from the DL/DSP bias...but...there is so much more there that you won't know about without either experience or education. I'm sure some will use Do-more without ever knowing, or needing, its full potential.

Like most, you are going through the Do-more change, where your preconceptions are slowing being dissolved and replaced by a strange sense of dependency on our new baby. Don't believe it? Just wait until you have to do something in DSP5 again...you'll see.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #181 on: June 13, 2013, 03:05:06 PM »
Do-more and Designer look enough like DL and DirectSoft on the surface to lull you into a false sense of adequacy. ;)

What an excellent line!   :D

About getting attached to it, I know what you mean.  Just ditching the BCD and octal alone is wonderful, let alone all the new features and the speed and memory capacity.  AND being able to use SERIO's.  That's been a boon on this particular project.

Shoot, about every tenth time I enter a numeric constant, I still enter a "K", and have to backspace over it!
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 03:07:13 PM by Controls Guy »
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #182 on: June 13, 2013, 03:10:50 PM »
Do-more and Designer look enough like DL and DirectSoft on the surface to lull you into a false sense of adequacy. ;)

What an excellent line!   :D

All in fun of course...
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #183 on: June 14, 2013, 10:31:18 AM »
Of course!   ;)
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #184 on: June 17, 2013, 01:09:21 AM »
Really liking the configurable memory!  Thanks!   :)
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #185 on: June 18, 2013, 01:47:11 PM »
Feature request (unless there's already a way to do this that I don't know yet):

If you right-click on a task or program in the project browser, have in the context menu an option to jump to the enabling box(es).

BTW, CAN you have two boxes enabling the same program/task, or do you have to combine the logic in one rung with one box?
« Last Edit: June 18, 2013, 02:56:17 PM by Controls Guy »
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #186 on: June 18, 2013, 01:53:29 PM »
BTW, CAN you have two boxes enabling the same program/task, or do you have to combing the logic in one rung with one box?

You can enable in as many places as you want.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #187 on: June 18, 2013, 02:14:22 PM »
If you right-click on a task or program in the project browser, have in the context menu an option to jump to the enabling box(es).
With our new XRef database, that is easy.  We can list out all the instances that use that code-block (e.g. RUN or ENTASK or HALT or SUSPEND or ???).  Chances are, there will be only 1.

You can already do this using the XRef VIEW, but that requires navigating the XRef view to find the code-block element.  We'll make it easier for you.   ;D
« Last Edit: June 18, 2013, 02:16:30 PM by franji1 »

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #188 on: June 18, 2013, 02:19:58 PM »
I was wondering if it might already be covered in Xref.  Just making that option that I mentioned jump to that spot in the Xref would be fine.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #189 on: June 18, 2013, 02:36:09 PM »
I was wondering if it might already be covered in Xref.  Just making that option that I mentioned jump to that spot in the Xref would be fine.
Right click is your friend in Do-more.  Context menu - what are all the things I can do from this code-block in the Project Browser?
Open it, go to the specific stage or rung in the tree, copy it into the clipboard (so I can paste it into another project or as of Rel 1.1 paste it in this project because I need to duplicate it for a similar device), delete it, configure it (e.g. rename), debug suspend/unsuspend, and soon, "show me where I enable/run this code-block from or where I HALT it or ..."

Ladder View has right-click/context menu.  Doc Editor does.  Data View does.  Each pane in Launchpad will in Rel 1.1 (due out soon).  Even the toolbar area does (to show/configure the various toolbars).

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #190 on: June 18, 2013, 02:54:45 PM »
Thanks!!

I've noticed that I fairly frequently get into a situation where a Data view has stuff in the status column, but it isn't live.  I can see the same points update in the ladder view, but they aren't changing in the Data View.  If I hit "No Status" the stuff all clears, then if it hit "All Status" it starts refreshing again.

Is this something I'm doing or is a "feature"?  :D
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #191 on: June 18, 2013, 03:15:33 PM »
Is this something I'm doing or is a "feature"?  :D
No.  Sounds like somethings getting bogged down.  We've addressed some of these issues back a while ago, but sounds like there are still some issues.   :o

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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #192 on: June 18, 2013, 03:17:38 PM »
If I hit "No Status" the stuff all clears, then if it hit "All Status" it starts refreshing again.

And to extend Mark's thought...using "All Status" improves the chances of something getting bogged down...
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #193 on: June 18, 2013, 03:24:51 PM »
If I hit "No Status" the stuff all clears, then if it hit "All Status" it starts refreshing again.

And to extend Mark's thought...using "All Status" improves the chances of something getting bogged down...

I still have this problem, even with only one Data View enabled.
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Re: Please tell us what your experience has been with Do-more...
« Reply #194 on: June 18, 2013, 03:32:56 PM »
I still have this problem, even with only one Data View enabled.

What are the specs on your PC?
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